Destiny 2 Optative God Roll: Best PvP & PvE Perks

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The Optative is a Void precision frame hand cannon that’s part of the reprised Undying weapon set. The weapons from this set resemble the Vex from the Sol Divisive with overgrown plants that cover nearly all the surface of the guns. But more than their looks, the stat spread of this weapon, and the weapons associated with the set, are relics of a bygone era in Destiny 2 before they were power crept to the minor leagues.

The Optative has done something for me that the last void 180 hand cannon, the IKELOS Hand Cannon, could not do. That is have Repulsor Brace and Golden Tricorn in different perk columns. That alone brings up its value considerably compared to the more established weapons of the same type.

How to get Optative in Destiny 2

To get the Optative, you’ll need to complete runs of the Coil seasonal activity from the Season of the Wish and hope and pray a random roll drops, allowing you to farm the weapon for potential red borders. The weapon can also be acquired from the end chest after the Wishing Star Exotic quest.

Once you have five red border weapons fully activated, you will be rewarded with the crafting which you can then use to shape your own personal Optative with enhanced perks. If you are planning to shape this gun, I suggest making one for PvE with its obvious god roll.

Best Optative PvP God Rolls

  • 1st Column: Fluted Barrel
  • 2nd Column: Accurized Rounds
  • Handling Masterwork
  • Targeting Adjuster Mod
  • Keep Away + Kill Clip

The Keep Away + Kill Clip roll is the primary option in PvP. Keep Away addresses the key weaknesses of 180s and Kill Clip is too good of a perk to not have on a hand cannon. This is a major plus for the feel of the weapon overall but that doesn’t mean it will magically outgun the likes of Ace of Spades or Thorn.

  • 1st Column: Corkscrew Rifling
  • 2nd Column: Accurized Rounds
  • Range Masterwork
  • Targeting Adjuster Mod
  • Rapid Hit + Zen Moment

This is the duelist roll for players who value precision in their fights. I’ve been using this a lot lately and all I can say is that Zen Moment comes into play more often than I expected when fighting at range. You may need to adjust your aim to get Rapid Hit going as the sights aren’t the best when looking at enemies from a distance.

Optative is an interesting weapon to bring into PvP lobbies, to say the least. You can have the time of your life getting easy kills with its innately fast TTK or get completely rolled by enemies who are out of your reach. But that’s just how 180s are in today’s PvP meta.

Best Optative PvE God Rolls

  • 1st Column: Fluted Barrel
  • 2nd Column: Accurized Rounds
  • Range Masterwork
  • Backup Mag Mod
  • Repulsor Brace + Golden Tricorn

The Repulsor Brace + Golden Tricorn roll is the best thing to ever happen to a Void 180 hand cannon in forever. The IKELOS hand cannon had both of these traits but they appeared in the same column.

The beauty of this combo is the synergy between Repulsor Brace and Exotic armor pieces like Gyrfalcon’s Hauberk. For those who aren’t aware, Gyrfalcon’s grants your Void weapons Volatile Rounds when you emerge from being invisible. Then when you get a kill with Optative, Repulsor Brace activates and you’ll have Overshields for a short time. This becomes a near-infinite loop of you causing enemies to blow up with Volatile Rounds and you turning invisible after getting a kill. Golden Tricorn becomes more powerful after getting a kill with your Void grenade.

I have not had this much fun with a Void build since the season started. Between the Overshields and Invisibility, I seldom have to worry about my health until my abilities are on cooldown. This is the next best thing besides having Destabilizing Rounds, in my humble opinion.

How good is the Optative?

The Optative is probably the most fun weapon in the set, at least when it comes to PvE. 180 hand cannons usually don’t fly high in PvP and are often overshadowed by their 140 and 120 RPM cousins. But they have found a place in PvE as a reliable crowd control option. And that’s where it looks like the Optative is destined to be as well for the most part.

This is one of the rare occurrences of an Undying weapon being far better than their IKELOS counterparts. While I still enjoy bringing the IKELOS hand cannon from time to time, I can’t deny that Optative is by and large the better Void hand cannon. So, how does it compare to one of my favorite 180s in the game, the Trust? No contest. The Trust is better.

These are the Optative base stats before perks are applied:

  • Impact: 78
  • Range: 34
  • Stability: 555
  • Handling: 26
  • Reload Speed: 53
  • Zoom: 14
  • Rounds Per Minute: 180
  • Magazine: 12

The Optative’s perk pool is one of the better ones I’ve seen on a hand cannon. Some pairings work exclusively better with the other but you can make something work if you are just looking to experiment on rolls of the weapon. I don’t recommend Deconstruct though. That perk has a long way to go before I can dare say it’s worth having on any weapon.

3rd Column Perks:

  • Permeability
  • Hip-Fire Grip
  • Repulsor Brace
  • Demolitionist
  • Keep Away
  • Rapid Hit
  • Attrition Orbs

4th Column Perks:

  • Under-Over
  • Wellspring
  • Offhand Strike
  • Deconstruct
  • Kill Clip
  • Zen Moment
  • Golden Tricorn

And that’s everything I have for this Optative god roll guide for Season of the Wish. I didn’t expect to like a weapon from the Undying set as much as the Optative in PvE. In PvP, it’s still definitely a coin toss whether or not you’ll survive the opponent in front of you. Try it out with a Void subclass and let the Void explosions fill the air. Hopefully, you’ll like it as much as I did. Good luck and have fun out there, Guardians.

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